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Old 04-02-2002, 02:13 AM   #26 (permalink)
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I mean c'mon the Corolla GTS is no powerhouse, it's really hard to power over in an 86 wihtout using other methods like clutch kick or ebrake (bye bye clutch).
that was a very stupid thing to say....

you sound like youre trying to tell us youve got some experience driving a Hachi.... somehow i doubt it. (otherwise you wouldnt still be driving an Eclipse :p)
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Old 04-02-2002, 03:14 AM   #27 (permalink)
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You know what a lot of people ask me after they see my ass dragging. They ask what kind of car it is. They as me if it's AWD. You know what I say "Front Wheel Drive" then they usually get this dumbfounded look on their face and say nice "drifting" they don't say ass dragging.
First off, its most likely that the people you ask don't even know what a proper drift is. They probably think that just anything involving tire screeching is considered a drift. Hell, even TJ told you that FF Drifting just isn't drifting.

So, for the 11th, 12th, and 13th time, there is no FF drifting. Stop handing out bad advice.
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Old 04-02-2002, 03:54 AM   #28 (permalink)
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So is all drifting is powerover or powersliding? I was under the impression there were other drift methods like using feint motion to break the backend loose which my setup can do. Or a jump drift, car slid a bit when I hit some of them bumps on highway 9. What about Ebrake drift that doesn't count? I still use the throttle and steering to control the drift. Why on a wet offramp on the freeway I was going like 60 and I heel and toed twice during the turn on the offramp and before I knew it the car was getting sideways because of that massive weight transfer. Scared the hell out of me though. Am I still full of shit because I can't powerover or drift in a circle a gazillion times?
Don't even have to say much. Powersliding is not drifting. Thanks for discrediting yourself.

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You know what a lot of people ask me after they see my ass dragging. They ask what kind of car it is. They as me if it's AWD. You know what I say "Front Wheel Drive" then they usually get this dumbfounded look on their face and say nice "drifting" they don't say ass dragging. I figure that people see the ugly no sideskirts, no wing, and the RS badge and they'd figure out it's the most base model eclipse you can get. I guess I can take that as a compliment but it kinda pisses me off that people get surprised that it's not an AWD. Heh if anything awd is probably harder to drift.
The fact that they can't tell the different between and AWD or FWD says a lot. So they say it's drifting, what makes them so sure it's drifting? Cuz you got "sidewayz"? They wouldn't know what true drifting is if it bit them in the ass. Because people in the know, know otherwise.
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Old 04-02-2002, 04:29 AM   #29 (permalink)
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I mean c'mon the Corolla GTS is no powerhouse, it's really hard to power over in an 86 wihtout using other methods like clutch kick or ebrake (bye bye clutch).
WTF?!
dood. You can use all the methods of drifting in any FR car just about. Power? Well, I don't see many stock hachi's drifting for one, but even then, it doesn't take alot of power to drift a hachi, i LEARNED how to drift in my hachi when it was stock! (engine wise)
All I had was a good lsd and suspension on a basically stock motor and it drifted fine. Clutch kick = "bye bye clutch"?! WTF are you talking about? Who in their right mind builds a drift car with a stock clutch? NOBODY. All it takes is a decent aftermarket clutch and it will last a long time. Besides, the lsd does most of the work anyway. When you say "side brake" drifts, well here's news for you, no one actually starts a drift with the ebrake unless they don't know what they are doing. You start by throwing the weight of the car off balance, (feint is what the US calls it), then the ebrake just aids you in control of the drift, you also use normal brakes to set the car. Its not hard to "powerover" as you cal it in a hachi either.. BAH! Stock talking about things you don't know as if you did.
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Old 04-02-2002, 06:00 AM   #30 (permalink)
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Old 04-02-2002, 09:15 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Well, its no use for me to add my 2 cents. Everyone just about said everything. It's not so much that the FF bothers me, its the people who buy FR's and automatically think they can drift because they have a "so called japanese RWD drift car." Or think ALL YOU NEED TO DRIFT IS AN SR20DET. Engine power is not a necessity, more like an accessory(not nearly as important as an LSD or supsension tuning/upgrades). There's this guy from OKI, that lives in Hawaii now that drifts the hell out of his 240sx with the KA24E! Constant connected drifts and he only has suspension mods. Actually, most of the "good" drifters in Hawaii run KA24's Sohcs or Dohcs. I'm not trying to say the the SR20 is a shitty motor, Hell its a great motor to get (TOO MUCH MONEY...). The Ka24 is a fine motor to use for "drifting". Nissan Motorsports USA actually sells many parts for the KA24E, as it was used in the KING CAB for off road racing, trucks race 2. Ka24e's are shitty motors because its a truck motor? That I still don't understand.

I remember a LONG TIME ago when I bought my 240sx, it was easy to find a Corolla GT-S or 240sx for sale. Here in Hawaii NOW its hard to find cheap gT-s' or 240sx or any 240sx on sale for that matter. Now I have a hard time finding spare parts for my car and shit. Oh well, I can't do anything about it. As we cannot do anything about people calling FF ass dragging drifting. It's too bad the FF people don't realize how stupid they look when ass drag. Notice how only FF people think FF ass draggin looks KOOL. Youll almost never hear an FR person saying FF ass draggin looks KOOL, unless they're on crack or something.
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Old 04-03-2002, 08:26 AM   #32 (permalink)
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damn ass draggers. i have to wait to put money together for a s13 till then i cant drift my lex damn auto

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Old 04-03-2002, 09:11 AM   #33 (permalink)
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that kid on the tricycle is my new hero!!!
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Old 04-03-2002, 05:51 PM   #34 (permalink)
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me too. i'm currently using my 2yr old nephew as a project and teaching him to drift in his trycicle. hes got the coiunter steer down but i think he just need differednt tires
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Old 04-18-2002, 11:18 PM   #35 (permalink)
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hey i'm a semi-noob to drifting but i've always wondered why they call the rx-7 an fc, can someone please explain? thanx
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Old 04-18-2002, 11:29 PM   #36 (permalink)
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hey i'm a semi-noob to drifting but i've always wondered why they call the rx-7 an fc, can someone please explain? thanx
FC is part of the model code for that particular generation of RX7... the shape youre referring to is called the 'FC3S'...

the model after that (the one that looks a bit like the Batmobile) is called the 'FD3S'.
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Old 04-18-2002, 11:32 PM   #37 (permalink)
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aprecaited, thanks man
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Old 04-18-2002, 11:50 PM   #38 (permalink)
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no probs dude.


and for the noobs:

THIS is an FC...






and THIS is an FD...


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Old 04-19-2002, 10:51 PM   #39 (permalink)
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and THIS is an FD
Mmmmm... It's as good as porn.
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and this is why the "FC" is used...

Chassis code: or body code, used in Japan to describe each and every car on the road.
Here’s a short list of common cars seen in the japanese world of racing, drifting, circuits, drag racing, and their body codes.
Nissan:
S13/PS13 - Silvia Q's/K's from 89’-93’
CA18DE, CA18DET, SR20DE, SR20DET.
RPS13/RS13 - 180sx from 89’-98’
CA18DE, CA18DET, SR20DE, SR20DET.
S14 - Silvia Q's/K's from 94-98
SR20DE, SR20DET.
S15 - Silvia from 99-present
SR20DE, SR20DET.
R30 - Skyline GTS, GTX, from 81'-85'
L28, FJ20ET, FJ20DET.
R31 - Skyline GTS, GTX, GTSR, from 86'-88'
RB20E, RB20DE, RB20DET, RB20DET-R.
R32 - Skyline GXi,GTE, GTS, GTS-4, GTS25, GTS25T, GTS-T, GTR, from 89’-93’
CA18DE, RB20E, RB20DE, RB20DET, RB25DE, RB25DET, RB26DETT.
R33 - Skyline GTS, GTS4, GTS25, GTS25T, GTR, from 94’-98’?
RB20E, RB25DE, RB25DET, RB26DETT.
R34 - Skyline GTS, GTS25T, GTR, from 99’-01’
RB20DE, RB25DE, RB25DET, RB26DETT
V35 - Skyline V300, V350, from 02’-present
VQ30DE, VQ35DE.
A31 - Cefiro from 88’- 93'
CA18DE, RB20E, RB20DE, RB25DE, RB20DET.
C33 - Laurel from 88’- 93'
CA18DE, RB20E, RB20DE, RB25DE, RB20DET.
C34 - Laurel from 94' -99'
RB20E, RB25DE, RB25DET.
C35 - Laurel from 99'-present
RB20E, RB25DE, RB25DET, RB25DET Neo 6 (280ps)
Y31 - Cima from 89’ - 95
VG30E, VG30DE, VG30DET.
RNN14 - Pulsar GTiR 88'-present
SR20DET.
Z31 - Fairlady Z/300zx from 86'-89'
VG30E, VG30ET, RB20DET.
Z32 - Fairlady 300zx/2+2 from 89'-99'
VG30DE, VG30DETT.
WGNC34 - Stagea from 99'- 01'
RB20E, RB25DE, RB25DET, 260RS RB26DETT.

Toyota:
AE85 - Levin/Treuno, "hachi-go"
3AU.
AE86 - Levin/Treuno, “hachi roku”
4AGE.
AE92 - Levin/Treuno, "kiu-ni" from 87'-91'
4AGE, 4AGZE.
AE101 - Levin/Treuno from 91'-95'
4AGE, 4AFE, 4AGZE.
AE111 - Levin/Treuno from 95'-present
4AGE, 4AFE, 4AGZE.
SW20 - MR2 G-limited, GT from 90'-98'
3SGE, 3SGTE.
JZX90 - Chaser/Mark II/Cresta from 93’ -95
1JZGE, 1JZGTE, 2JZGE.
JZX100 - Chaser/Mark II/Cresta from 96’ - 00’
1JZGE, 1JZGTE, 2JZGE.
JZX110 - Verossa/Mark II from 01’-present
1JZGE, 1JZGTE, 2JZGE.
MZ10/20/70 - Soarer from 81’-92’
1GGE, 1GE, 1GGTE, 1GFE, 1UZFE, 7MGE, 7MGTE.
JZA30/31 - Soarer from 93’-00’
1JZGE, 1JZGTE, 2JZGTE, 1UZFE V8.
MA70/JZA70 - Supra from 86’-92’
7MGE, 7MGTE, 1JZGE, 1JZGTE.
JZA80 - Supra from 93’-present
1JZGE, 1JZGTE, 2JZGE, 2JZGTE.
SXE10 - Altezza from 97’-present
3SGE (Japan), 1JZGE (US)
EP82 - Starlet GT from 89’ -95’
4EFTE.
EP91 - Starlet GT from 95'-present
4EFTE.

Mazda:
FC3S - RX7 from 85’ -91’
13B, 13BT
FD3S - RX7 from 91’ -present
13B-REW

Subaru:
GC8 - Impreza WRX/STi from ??' -99'
EJ20, EJ22.

Mitsubishi:
CN9A/CP9A/CD9A/CE9A? - Lancer Evolution from 91'-present
4G63
- GTO/3000GT from 9?' - present
? engine code
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Old 04-20-2002, 11:42 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Mmmmm... It's as good as porn.
hell yes! much prettier than a porn star- the curves, its ALL about the curves (says the guy in the squarest, pointiest, most straight-lines car ever made )
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Old 04-26-2002, 05:21 PM   #42 (permalink)
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You can still drift with a FF. Its called using the e-brake.
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hahaha i drift using the gears, the clutch ,and very little brake

and if you use the e-brake thats the same as powersliding
oh wait it is powersliding
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Old 06-07-2002, 03:44 AM   #43 (permalink)
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It seems to me that everyone who is claiming that FF's can drift are saying so simply because they lack the experience of driving a RWD car... Sell your civics and buy a datsun, than say that FF's can drift.
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LOL.... YOU HAVE DO IDEA WHAT YOUR ARE TALKING ABOUT. I USE TO OWN A FF AND A RWD. YES THERE ARE DIFFERENCES ON THE WAY YOU DRIFT AND HOW TO HANDLE THE CAR WHILE ON THE DRIFT AND YES IS EASIER TO DRIFT A RWD. BUT LET ME ASK YOU SOMETHING HAVE YOU EVER DRIFTED A FF?
MY GUESS IS NO.
I LOVE MY FF UNTIL SOME BASTARD RAN A RED LIGHT AND HIT ME. OH WELL.
BUT IS POSSIBLE. AND IT TAKES MORE SKILL THAM A RWD. SHIT MY 13 YR OLD SISTER CAN DRIFT A RWD.
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